Do you mean will you need a Microsoft Indie licence? You don't need that to download & use XNA on Windows. All my games are coded in XNA in preparation to transfer to Delta Engine.

This is a link to the latest (and, sadly, possibly final) version of XNA:

http://www.microsoft.com...ad/details.aspx?id=27599

SharpDX is just an open-source project I think - not directly affiliated with XNA.

Edited by user Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:58:20 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

You definitely won't need one of those. The DE Indie licences are purely concerned with deploying to platforms other than Windows - eg deploying to iOS/Android/WP7 and later on XBox etc. Developing on Windows is always free.

I'm pretty sure all you need is the XNA/SharpDX dlls. DE comes with some third-party dll's (eg Physics) but they can be fairly out of date - so it's often still worth going directly to the source.

Ok. If you've got the XNA dlls I'll have to let a DE person discuss what the issue might be... It's not licencing though. As someone with an Indie licence I can tell you you don't get access to any additional DE source/binaries, you just get access to the build services, so it's not that.

I should backpedal on my previous post a little also: It's possible you will need a licence to deploy to a Windows 8 tablet as opposed to a Windows 8 PC. I'm genuinely not sure on that - don't want to speak out of turn!

Edited by user Thursday, May 3, 2012 1:54:33 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Well, for GamePad support you actually don't need to use XNA, it is just what we have tested most. GamePad support is also supposed to work for Delta.InputSystem.Windows, but we have not moved our research project code to the Delta.InputSystem.Windows assembly yet.

As for the XNA assemblies. For simplicity reasons (because content get much more complicated) I have left them out because users will have many more issues using non OpenTK graphics, input or multimedia assemblies right now. I barely can support the requests and bug reports made for iOS and Android right now and improved WP7 support was also planed for April .. now it is already May ^^

If you like I can include them in the upcoming nightly releases, but I have not tested them much .. maybe it makes more sense if I send it to interested people and include them when they have been tested a bit more. To be clear: XNA is needed for WP7 and since we do ALL testing on Windows all the modules have to work on Windows first before we use them on other platforms. So for WP7 XNA is needed anyway.

About what PG said: He is generally right, but currently if anyone with a license needs for example a special configuration (lets say Windows XNA, Windows SharpDX, iPhone 3G ES 1.1, etc.) I can quickly enable this as opposed to someone without a license (then it would have to be included into the public release, which is not always as easy as lots of testing has to be done first).

I am currently improving the build service (gone down from 10seconds build time to 0.5s for Windows builds yesterday and worked a bit on Android and iOS today). Once that is done I will move on to WP7 and XNA (probably not done before next week).

Understood. Of course if you give some / all of us access to the other implementations we can help iron out the bugs, if not fix them ourselves. Also, I find having multiple concrete implementations to peruse makes it easier understand the framework and the various abstractions and layerings. I'll do my best to get my post quota up then! Definitely keen to get more DE goodies. ;)